Me: Still have that Wolf 7.62×39 ammo you wanna sell?
Him: You want it? You’re not gonna like the price.
Me: How much?
Him: Twentyfive cents per round.
Me: I’ll take it all.
Him: :::Suspicious::: Why are you buying all my ammo?
Me: Maybe I know something you don’t…
Him: Like?
And, yeah, he had no idea about the import ban.
Yeah, I had plenty (for my needs) of 7.62AK ammo but I can always resell this for a profit but, lets e real, it’s just gonna get bunkered.
Gonna need more SKSs now…… ;-?
I have half a case of Wolf 7.62 I didn’t try to sell before. Now I’m glad I didn’t.
if you found some wolf at .25/round look at it at buying it for 50% of spot. Lead and brass, the new precious metals. I just paid Wayyyy to much for 1000 small rifle primers but such is life.
I’m thinking modern black powder rifle for the long run. I see that they even have scoped versions…
Anyone got any thoughts?
n
(and yeah, doesn’t matter if you bought it specifically to sell, it’s hard to convince yourself to do so when the time comes.)
Cross bows are nice too and their quiet…for poaching or defending your AO
Thoughts:
“A modern black powder rifle?” Isn’t that an oxymoron?
“In the long run?” What is your “long run?” Plinking?
If the “long run” is SHTF, if you are comfortable with technology used to fight the British in 1812, go for it.
“if you are comfortable with technology used to fight the British in 1812, go for it.”
Aside from several long guns in modern calibres, I also have a New Army & Target Carbine Revolver from Uberti.* which is far from being something that was used in the war of 1812, I also have 4 spare cylinders that I can carry loaded to do fast reloads. Plus, I have a Tap-o-cap so I can make my own percussion caps** And I cast my own ball from led weights and a bit of tin. Oh, and even though it’s time-consuming, I have made batches of black powder.
What’s your plan B when the SHTF and you’re out of ammo?
* https://www.uberti-usa.com/new-army-and-target-carbine-revolvers
** https://sharpshooter-22lr-reloader.myshopify.com/products/11-percussion-cap-maker
“I’m thinking modern black powder rifle for the long run. I see that they even have scoped versions…
Anyone got any thoughts?”
If the situation exists with regular gunfights such as in a TEOTWAWKI, there there will be some spare ammo and bangsticks laying around.
Your enemy is your supply chain.
If youre thinking about food acquisition, trapping is better than hunting.
“he had no idea about the import ban” – shame on him for not realizing that there’s a flip side to that old and very true saying, “Let the buyer beware”.
There will be some panic early on, but from what I could find online, Wolf has be sourcing their components from suppliers within the EU for a few years now and not Russia. Can anyone confirm this?
At the only large gun and ammo suppliers in my area the shelves have been mostly empty of all but the most obscure ammo for over a year. Zero powder, with the exception of a few, as in 2-3 cans of black powder, zero primers and only the occasional .17 .22 cal boxes. A few dies left and about a handful of brass. But they still got guns to sell. Well, I guess you can always use em as clubs. Although the bat aisle is fully stocked and they work mo bettah.
From what I see in my area ( Midwest ; WI specifically) we have some stores that have ample powder and some bullets, brass in spurts. Primers are still iffy but I have been able to supplement my ample supply with 200 allowed purchase from Fleet Farm from time to time, and at the 4.5/cents per primer price point. Which goes to show shortages are regional or maybe by store acumen for getting products. Ammo is in stock but still to high price for my tastes ( again I reload ). So some of you people talking crossbows and BP guns that may be what you are facing but me not so much. Don’t over generalize or jump to rash conclusions based on regional conditions. Yeah the Russian ammo ban is bogus but that’s why you reload, or have more diverse weapons in different calibers.
I have shot tradtional black powder weapons for many years, and like everything else black powder or the substitute black powders are very hard to find. The same with percussion caps. The modern inline muzzle loaders use shotgun primers and those are also scarce and expensive when you can find them. There are folks that have worked for years learning how to make useable real black powder, but aside from charcoal which they have learned to make, they usually have to order the powdered sulfur and postasium nitrate which are the other two raw components of a meticulous and dangerous powder making process. Those of us who already have reloading equipment for the caliber weapons we have are in a position to search and wait for components to become available, and most of us have enough components for careful use of our guns. With few exceptions the time for spray and pray is long gone, unless you are able to police up some items after a firefight you are able to win. Gray Fox
Thanks for the feedback re: black powder rifles. In normal times, they have an added benefit of extended deer season around here. In bad times, it’s certainly easier to have stockpiles of rifles and ammo. On the other hand, I can’t recall anyone anytime suggesting a roundup or ban on black powder muzzle loaders… or a ban on their ammo. They’re not even legally firearms in Texas, iirc.
n
The mistake people make is assuming, if something has never been banned in the past, that it will not be banned in the future. I would remind everyone that is how the American Revolution really got kicked off. The British were on their way to confiscate black powder rifles!!! The UK has been talking about serializing knives and knives in general. There is no such thing as ban proof weapon!!
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/200426
Olympic peninsula, WA. Some of the mom & pop LGS have ammo in common calibers if you’re willing to drive to get it; the further you are from the Poulsbo/Silverdale/Bremerton area the better chance of finding something. The big outdoors store in the aforementioned area started having ammo supply issues in some of the common calibers as far back as October 2019, & by April 2020 everything except 6mm ARC was unobtainium until May or June 2021 when they were able to keep some other uncommon calibers sitting on the shelf for more than 24 hours. Prices on factory ammo are averaging at least 20% higher than 2019 prices from what I’ve seen. Primers & powder have been scare in this area for years; if you haven’t been ordering online you haven’t had much selection. Heading down to Pierce county used to dramatically improve your chances of finding things that were in short supply in these parts but that isn’t the case nowadays. Guns aplenty in all the stores, & ammo in the back but only if you’re buying a brand new bangstick & need a few boxes to feed it.
We seem to have quite a few new-ish gun owners in the area & from appearances the ones that haven’t figured out that you can buy ammo online are the ones that seem to be hit hardest by the ammo squeeze. Everyone else seems to be ok for the time being, but the local organized range has been light on customers for awhile now. The unorganized ranges have been much busier than normal though.