As you may know, after the first of the year the $200 transfer tax on certain NFA items (short-barreled shotguns and rifles, and suppressors) goes away. You still have the annoying background check and delays, but at least you won’t be paying $200 for the privilege.
The demand for those kinds of items (hereafter just referred to as ‘NFA items’) has always been tiny compared to the demand for non-NFA stuff. The reason, of course, is because most people don’t want to go through the hassle…this is evidenced by the fact we have ‘wrist braces’.
Since demand is usually fairly mild it’s not too hard to imagine that production rates of these NFA items is also a bit dialed back.
So, what do you think is going to happen after January 1st when theres no $200 tax to deter people anymore? Demand will go up, of course. But production rates my not be able to meet that demand. So when you go to buy a nice shiny Mojave9 or Sparrow, your dealer might say “Yeah, those are backordered.”
It makes sense that if youre of the mind to take advantage of the new rules on January 1st your strategy should probably be to order the the NFA item now, pay for it now, and have the dealer sit on it until January 1st and then do the paperwork.
Yup. That’s my plan. Already paid for 2 items and will do the paperwork after new years.
hmmm, maybe it’s time to set up a firearms trust. I’ve never been arrested or fingerprinted and at nearly 70, don’t want to start now. But there are family members who have been in the military and the lockup so they could be the ‘person in charge’ of the trust since their info is already in the system.
Would also like the cliff notes for the fine print, back when I had an FFL the ATF showed up at my home at 8 am on a Saturday for an inspection, that was agreed to when the license was applied for and granted. Is it the same with an NFA item?
Maybe start buying things so that your kids and grandkids can have them with no paper trail?
Lol…
Sounds like a great strategy. I can’t help but think when Trump is out of office, the Left will again make items illegal and have the owners turn them in or sell them.
One of my former acquaintance was able to purchase a Brno 465 bolt rifle (Czechoslavakia) years ago when U.S. had a strict embargo against the Iron Curtain items. He simply ordered through a Canadian gun shop then imported the rifle from there to here.
Found something
§ 479.22 Right of entry and examination.
Any ATF officer or employee of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms duly authorized to perform any function relating to the administration or enforcement of this part may enter during business hours the premises (including places of storage) of any importer or manufacturer of or dealer in
firearms, to examine any books, papers, or records required to be kept pursuant to this part, and any firearms kept by such importer,
Yeah. THats been the case for years. Any FFL knows they can come by anytime to check your stuff out. But, thats for dealers…not end users.
It also applies to C&R (Class 03) FFL holders, though I’m not sure how often it’s used for them.
Like Zero said, it does not apply to end users. You still retain your full rights under the 4th Amendment even when owning an NFA item(s).
it doesn’t currently apply to end users but all that can change with a click of a button.
Jimbo, Nope, it would be a violation of the 4th. You cannot make a waiving of a right retroactive to start, that is what would have to happen. This untruth has been bouncing around the internet and before since the inception of the NFA. It is just fearmongering and nothing more.
trump wipes his ass with the Constitution. And maga seems fine with that.
Pretty sure the constitution says people are guaranteed a right to trial. Seems the folks shooting ordinance into boats are ignoring all that shit. Like Bush said, it’s just a piece of paper.
Are the people in the boats who are recieving the ordinance US Citizens? If not, they aren’t entitled to the due process protections of our Constituion.
If they are US citizens, then they shouldn’t be hit with drone strkes (tell that to Obama, btw), but they also shouldn’t be riding around in drug boats, helping our enemies import lethal drugs to kill Americans. So while likely unconstituional, if their death is incidental to our border protection, it kind of falls under FAFO.
Some light reading for you Peter,
https://www.usni.org/lethality_and_legality
Do you have to keep your tax stamp with your suppressor, SBR or SBS? And are you required to show it to any law enforcement officer that asks to see it?
Not as far as I know. I usually keep a copy stuffed into the pistol grip of my NFA toy just in case, but no one has ever said “Hey, nice 11-inch AR you got there. You have paperwork for that?” But, this is Montana.
you have to keep a copy with the suppressor, and any nfa item crossing state lines.
And you also have to notify ATFE of your intent to take it out of state. FOrtunately, I have no intention of going outta state with any of these things during peacetime.
You have to notify for SBR’s and SBS’s. but not for silencers.
Berglander,
Good to know on the suppressors.
Yep, already paid for my new suppressor and have a serial number. The paperwork will be submitted January 1st by my dealer.
Heard there are some court cases arguing that if the tax isn’t collected, the restriction is automatically unconstitutional, and that’s why the tax may be reduced, but is ‘here to stay’.
Up to $10,000 fine, three years in jail. Felony conviction and no more second amendment rights. Guess the state…
I bought a polonium k this fall and paid for the stamp and everything. I have little faith the atf will be able to keep the approvals going quickly once the onslaught begins in Jan.
I am not critical of those who wish to follow the law – carry on. But for those who wish to – you can make yourself a suppressor with a gatorade bottle, some steel wool, and a little hardware. Disposable and quite cheap. Use and throw away.
A potato over the end of a revolver barrel works as well….or so I have heard
I would never suggest doing these things….it’s against the laws our betters have made for us to follow.
George Washington – a fellow Virginian – would never have broken the law. /s
Best Regards,
Red in Ole Virginny
I would not put a potato on the end of my revolver, but you do you.
Understood.
It has its uses in some parts of the real world when a man needs to do things and walk away.
Best Regards,
Red in Ole Virginny
Put a tater in your pants to impress the ladies. Just remember in the front, not the back.
Taters, natures most versatile food.