I’ve gotten a couple emails from people asking me what I think about this push towards mandatory ‘buybacks’ of ‘assault weapons’.
First, you can’t buy back what wasn’t yours to begin with, so right off the bat the name is flawed. Let’s call it what it really is: a “confiscation-with-compensation” program. Think of it as a form of eminent domain directed at your guns… like eminent domain against ‘real property’ the .gov gives you no choice in the ‘sale’, hands you a check for what they think is fair, and then say you ‘sold’ it to them.
You know, if I take your car out of your driveway without your permission but leave a check for what I think your car is worth on your doorstep…guess what?..I still go down for stealing a car. It doesn’t matter if someone pays you…if you don’t want to sell something, and they take it a give you a check, to me that isn’t a ‘sale’ … thats a crime. But, of course, the rules are different for .gov.
Laws like this never start on a national level. They are birthed on state levels (NY, CA, IL, etc.) and are then held as shining examples to be replicated on the national level. You’re not going to see a national mandatory buyback before you see a city/state level mandatory buyback. Sure, it’s already happened in some places… somewhere there’s an ancient copy of the letter I received from the NYPD many years ago telling me I needed to turn in my HK93 to the cops, take it out of city limits, or render it inoperable…with no compensation, mind you. But those sorts of things are fairly rare. Expect that to change.
Solution? Well, there’s only two solutions.. first is you politically quash this thing with such extreme prejudice and furious righteous outrage that, to paraphrase Tip O’Neil, gun control becomes the ‘third rail of politics – you touch it, you [politically] die.’
The second solution, which isn’t necessarily a solution as much as it is a personal choice, is to head over to GunBroker, Palmetto State, GrabAGun, and all the usual firearms venues and work your credit cards so hard they lay limp in your wallet like sheets of overcooked lasagna.
I’ve been saying that the sky is falling regarding rifle/mag bans for over fifteen years now and I do not see that belief changing for the better anytime soon. Had I the financial resources, I’d have a case of 50 stripped AR lowers and about 500 Pmags sitting in a Hardigg case somewhere. :::shrug::: But that’s just me.
Anyway, someone asked me what my take is on the ‘mandatory buyback’ threat and that’s it – I see it happening on a local level in some places, but I do not see it on a national level for quite some time. Note, thats not me saying it won’t happen…Im just saying I don’t believe it will be happening (on a federal level) anytime soon. But, I’ve been wrong before so it’s up to you to decide if it’s the jet ski this year or another couple AR’s. Choose wisely.
What is worse about the buy back is that is does BUPKUS stopping crime from occurring. These buy backs are targeted towards LAW ABIDING citizens and taking their firearms.
How will the government take away the firearms from the criminals who commit crime ? They people who willfully commit murder – robberies – rape – kidnapping. What will happen to their guns I wonder ?
This policy only leaves the law abiding citizen at their mercy. Or their government. In any case, the citizen loses their ability to fight back.
If you already own an AR or two, buy the Jet Ski. Life is short, and as you’re recovering in a field hospital near the border of Free Wyoming during the early days of CWII, you’ll be glad you have those pleasant memories of afternoons on the lake to pass the time.
What firearm? I reported them stolen, you lost the paperwork??
Problem is, all those online or FFL dealer purchases leave a record… I have friends in LE. Doesn’t take them 2 min to look those records up.
Regards
I find that bit confusing. I don’t know what state youre in but unless your state requires that all FFL sales be recorded on some local level, LE isn’t going to get any detailed record purchase in two minutes. In Montana, for example, you buy a gun from an FFL it gets entered in their disposition book and then…nothing. Cops want to know what guns you bought they’d have to visit every FFL in the state, comb through their paper records going back however many years, and that process isn’t a two minute process. They could, I suppose, go to the NICS people and ask for a record of all background checks for Joe Blow and what FFL’s asked for those checks…that would narrow it down. But if Joe Blow has a valid carry permit, then no NICS check was done and we’re back to the paper records. SO, in your state, maybe two minutes…in places that don’t have California-like rules, a lot longer, if at all.
Thank you Commander Zero for writing that out. I have also been confused when people speak as if there are state gun registers. Several people with ffl’s told me they just keep gobs of paper records, but no one ever asks for them. They could, but there are at least hundreds of ffls in my state. Its a lot of piles of paper to go through. With legal private sales, even these records are not that accurate as to what people own. That is why the first thing will be voluntary buy backs.
http://www.commanderzero.com/?p=2027
Don’t know how it’s done- I’m in AL which is a pretty gun friendly state. However, it’s just a little disturbing to find out how fast LE can ID whether you have bought guns or not (saw this in action when a relative of a friend was arrested and they went to get him full SWAT because the system flagged him as a weapons purchaser…). I don’t believe they can find out the specific type or quantity but they know you have (legally) purchased weapons – maybe through the FBI system? Just more Orwellian crap. NEVER underestimate the ability of the government to be able to track you. If you do you’re a fool IMO…
Regards
Sorry had to fix typos:
Actually the firearms trace starts at the manufacture and they follow the firearm through the wholesaler and than to the FFL holder. The ATF reviews the FFL holder’s on-site paperwork and than goes and interviews the person who purchased it from the FFL. It becomes a good old fashion knock and talk process from an ATF perspective until they find the last person in possession or the trail goes cold. That’s really it in a nutshell. A request from local LE to ATF on a trace takes about 4 months to complete and they’re not always successful, because some sellers sell to unknown third parties or the firearm was taken in a theft.
In case you haven’t heard or in case you might care, the Canadian PM just announced the fall election. Now we Canucks get to try to vote in a Conservative Government to avoid a round of Liberal confiscations. No buy backs, turn them in or go to jail. Sadly no 2nd Amendment in the Great White North!!
Sadly it’s the same story up here north of the border. The excused used are all based on what is happening in the (not so) United States. One thing these fools, north and south of the border, all fail to take into account is Irish Democracy. The only way for these edicts to work is if firearms owners play along. Historically, while some will, the majority will not.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/12/gun-control-laws-connecticut-california-new-prohibition-same-totalitarianism/
I think its coming sooner than you do. Pelosi has the gop quaking in their boots and they just can’t wait to find a way to give in and keep their seat at the same time. its time to load up and make a stand, or toss them on the fire along with the constitution, and our man hoods. I only pray they get so bold as to go for all the marbles at once, which will sadly mean war rather than the slow trickle going on now. that’s how you boil the frog, and how hitler took Europe. in wars past well-off folks funded and supplied the local militia company. me thinks if you got extra change you might want to get few to hand out to the new recruits. from what I see now, plenty of rifles to go around, but mags and ammo are way short for such conflict.
Frankly, I hope the dems go ‘all in’. I want the binary electoral choice to be as absolutely clear as possible. A lot of people laugh at the ‘green new deal’, banning plastic straws & cow farts, LBGTQLMNOP, free college, etc.
Get them on record, promising to ban firearms. Make sure everybody hears it. It’ll be a Trumpocalypse.
right there with you tim. I have a feeling they are going to be surprised at the turnout. I think they will not accept the results and that plays in our favor. then we can be done with the lot of them.
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Back when I had my FFL I was talking to an ATF agent about this very thing. ‘…Don’t you guys know exactly who has what, when they bought it, who they bought it from and which closet it was stored in…’ She laughed and said they regularly get calls from citizens who lost guns in a burglary and wants the ATF to give them the serial numbers, make, model, etc. for insurance and police reports. She has to tell them they don’t have that info and they are wildly over-estimating what the ATF actually does.
“Yeah, we can’t help you with the serial number thing…but if you need your house burned down or your dog shot, we’re your guys.”
Or wife and son!
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Buy back refers to something someone previously owned, which in this case they did not. Mandatory refers to, we can make you do it or we will label you a criminal. (Who’s the criminal here)? Gummint is the worst type of criminal ever devised, they have repeatedly violated their oath and our Constitution for well over 125 years.
The 2nd gives the people the right to keep and near arms – Period! There is no provision for what type/style arms they can bear. Written and understood as the current arms available and currently in use. The states have agreed to this by simply ratifying the Constitution & amendments and becoming a state of the “United States”. The Fed gummint and state gummint have power to do ONLY what we the people give and allow them to do as written in the US Constitution and state Constitutions. Feds and states only job is to make life livable for us, the peons and citizens. Their job is NOT to control us. They have forgotten this and need desperately to be reminded of it from time to time. Hence the blood of Patriots and tyrants needing to be spilled from time to time.
Gummint of any sort, in our present day and age, is definitely NOT your friend and all references otherwise are nothing but lies. Their sole position is control of the populace and enhancement of their power, influence, and yet more control. ALL gummints act this way. Our Founders realized this and set up our “Constitutional Republic” to give this power to the populace instead of the other way around. First time it’s been tried in history.
With the ever increasing and blatant cry for more and more control of the populace by TPB, encouraged by the portion of population that simply refuses to be responsible for themselves and their actions, it is coming to the time, repeated once again, when we need to tell the TPB to pound sand, as was told to that assf**k king George in merry old England 200 plus years ago. They year 1776 will repeat once again, 1776 part 2 is fast approaching ~ Molon Labe! Do NOT succumb to any buyback, or confiscation attempted by anyone. All attempts are illegal under our Constitution. Once you do you are giving them the power to continue and we have reverted to the same rule Hitler used to disarm the populace in WWll, as well as all other dictators prior and after have done. The scenario and methods are the same.
With roughly 100 million gun owners (as currently believed and reported) it is pretty clear they cannot arrest every one of us, which is what will have to be done as soon as the first person agrees to their unlawful demands.
At least that is my take and view on the situation. There are those who will be sorely tempted to cave. This is the RED LINE in the sand Do Not Give In…..