This is interesting on a very big level. How do you track firearms to/from specific people without serial numbers? While .gov will continue to try to restrict guns (and mags) at the entry point into the general public through bans, licensing, registration, etc. once that gun has entered public circulation and it has it’s number removed it is now as free as a bird. There are some interesting consequences as far as the ability to enact effective control.
Many people don’t know that it was only within this lifetime that guns were required to have serial numbers. Until 1968 you didn’t have to have a serial number on shotguns and .22 rifles. In fact, you can probably find a serial-less .22 in almost any gun store’s used rack. I’ve had plenty of ancient .22 rifles that lacked serial numbers, and a couple little .410’s as well.
Regardless of whether this serial number episode has any effect on gun freedoms, it is interesting to see how the winds are changing in regards to guns. But even if something is ruled unconstitutional, it can still take years…decades…to wind through the court. So don’t stop buying those mags and AR lowers just yet.
Well damn. Looks like Joey loses again. He isn’t doing to well with the courts. They’re slapping him down on his Edicts which are nothing more then the head of the Executive branch illegally seizing legislative power of the Congress. Violation of the separation of powers clause in the Constitution.
Now this. The left keeps losing on 2A cases. The new law that New York Governor Kathy Yokle signed is being reviewed as it reenacted the same restrictions that were in the law the SCOTUS found unconstitutional several months back. These idiots are nothing but unruly children. They need a severe spanking. Which will be delivered in November.
I’ll be interested to read details of the actual judgement, it isn’t clear if this ruling is specific to that criminal case, the circuit the judge is in, or if he did some kind of national ruling.
I suspect the first, but the article isn’t clear.
May be an example of ” Judge Shopping”. The Marxists have perfected that. Find a like minded ( make that Liberal activist) judge and present your case. Our people have learned that trick as well. As a result we have been winning quite a few mire cases. Is it right? Maybe not. But it’s the environment we operate in these days.
WRT 80% lowers etc, just use an engraver and make up a serial number…
1 is good
I’d avoid evocative numbers like 666….
Do serial numbers you add need to be unique, or could you use 1 for each lower and, because they are hand finished they are arguably not the same….so 1 is appropriate.
Additionally, if you do use unique numbers, must they be sequential; “serial” implies yes, though not necessarily n,n+1,n+2, etc.
Think of the confusing gaps in Fibonacci for example…..
IIRC, the law says a serial number… But it might say unique.
If you ask the ATF, they quote the requirements for manufacturers, which includes model, caliber, manufacturer, city, and state.
But only the serial HAS to be on the lower – the rest can be elsewhere on the weapon (for example, look at polymer frame pistols with a metal insert).
And no, there is no requirement to be sequential, though they are often assumed to be.
I have a couple of old .410s and a 16-gauge with no factory serial numbers.
If they slapped this down then arguably the entire NFA could eventually be in play.
That would be GCA68, would like a good run at NFA 34 too,the Sullivan Acts(NYC criminal protection acts) would be a excellent case to overthrow.